tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12842493.post8323425398406687632..comments2023-11-03T20:50:37.025+13:00Comments on AARON MORE: Spare the rod spoil the child, use the rod and be put in jailAaron Morehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12115304818302458766noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12842493.post-5745292125894557092007-03-01T21:09:00.000+13:002007-03-01T21:09:00.000+13:00Surely you can see that condoning murder while not...Surely you can see that condoning murder while not allowing a gentle smack is inconsistent, while allowing a gentle smack but not allowing murder is not. You may not agree with gentle smacking but being anti abortion does not mean you have to be anti smacking to still hold a logical view point. <BR/><BR/>I am aware of course that pro abortionist don't believe they are condoning murder and so they would not think their position is flawed. Then again I don't know too many people who do believe their position is flawed! <BR/><BR/><BR/>Their are also studies that prove that light smacking does not harm children. <BR/><BR/>I think it is hard to say you are not disrespecting an upbringing when you are saying anyone who behaves like our parents should be charged with a crime. I can honestly see why some people choose not to gently smack and I respect their decision but I also respect the many loving and caring parents who believe the best way to bring up their child is too occasionally use an appropriate measure of physical discipline.Aaron Morehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12115304818302458766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12842493.post-74240462930879844122007-03-01T16:11:00.000+13:002007-03-01T16:11:00.000+13:00Also, following your logic, the MPs are not being ...Also, following your logic, the MPs are not being contrary then, being pro choice and anti smacking, because they do not regard abortion as harming a child. This is because they do not regard the foetes (sp?) as a child. <BR/><BR/>I, on the other hand, am the only sane one left, being both anti smacking AND anti abortion. <BR/><BR/>Hey, at least I'm consistent!Sharynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756996252789950326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12842493.post-26708401749164977772007-03-01T16:02:00.000+13:002007-03-01T16:02:00.000+13:00Just because I was smacked and I think smacking is...Just because I was smacked and I think smacking is wrong on principle, doesn't mean I don't respect my parents or my upbringing. <BR/><BR/>You certainly wouldn't be able to use an implement to assault a child under the ammendment. <BR/><BR/>You may not think smacking is damaing, but the weight of pyscological evidence is against you. People do study these things!<BR/><BR/>But, that is hardly the point. The point is, if you "smacked" an adult, you could be charged with assault. It's not about whether or not you are damaged by that smack, it's your right not to be subjected to it. What is it about children that means they don't have that same right?Sharynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756996252789950326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12842493.post-35067699685433982602007-03-01T15:31:00.000+13:002007-03-01T15:31:00.000+13:00I would suggest many parents both Christians and n...I would suggest many parents both Christians and non Christians are concerned about this bill as it would make them law breakers. <BR/><BR/>I don't have a problem being anti abortion and pro smacking as I don't view a light smack as damaging to a child, where as abortion is obviously damaging to a child. <BR/><BR/>I also see no reason why the law could not allow for someone to be lightly disciplined with a rod (which literally means a stick) to me this would be a light smack with the wooden spoon. <BR/><BR/>I myself have had a light smack on the bottom with a wooden spoon. So the reason why I am against this legislation is it is deeply offensive to me. It is suggesting that my mum is not a good a parent and that she acted inappropriately towards me. Sure the legislation is not retrospective but it still seeks to make her actions out as being inappropriate when to me they were not. I am sorry but I simply cannot stomach this. I had a fantastic upbringing and am so proud of the way my mum handled me. I was a problem child between the ages of 7-10 and I am so proud of the way it was handled. I was very rarely phyiscally discplined but when I was it had a postive result in my life.<BR/><BR/>Sure many parents don't handle physical discipline in a mature way and it turns into abuse, they certainly should have the book thrown at them. I am 100% against child abuse but light smacking is a very different thing.Aaron Morehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12115304818302458766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12842493.post-73259921852843061822007-03-01T14:12:00.000+13:002007-03-01T14:12:00.000+13:00I am totally at a loss to understand why so many C...I am totally at a loss to understand why so many Christians are so anti this bill? Like there's something in the bible that says we should hit our children or we're bad parents. Why are many Christians falling over themselves to protect the "right" of adults to smack/hit children?<BR/><BR/>And what about the inconsistency of Christians being anti abortion and pro smacking? <BR/><BR/>If the bill was amended even a little you still couldn't use a rod.<BR/><BR/>I just don't get it.Sharynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13756996252789950326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12842493.post-20665784163006064982007-02-27T23:05:00.000+13:002007-02-27T23:05:00.000+13:00Great article Ronny, thanks for the link. I feel ...Great article Ronny, thanks for the link. I feel quite passionate about doing something to stop this bill go through (despite the fact our government seems to do as it pleases despite what the public think... are we still a democratic society?!) I sent an email to my local MP today opposing the bill, and might email a few more MP's. <BR/><BR/>There's a guy in Tauranga who is organising a petition to hold a referendum re this bill. They need 300000 signatures, hopefully by mid-march. My mum is a coordinator for it here in Chch. I could get his details if you want to sign it or help get signatures up there? <BR/><BR/>Hope you & Saz are doing good :)amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10298183853539610830noreply@blogger.com